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  • 1.  Malt color measurement

    Posted 12-21-2022 18:04

    This query is meant especially to all you maltsters out there (but anyone can reply):

     

    I am researching the color measurement used for malt. Degrees Lovibond is a legacy measurement unit developed in the 1880's that used a visual color scale and tintometer. That method was replaced with the advent of spectrophotometry by the standard reference method (SRM) unit many years ago and all US maltsters use the ASBC SRM method to measure color (tintometers are kept in museums, not labs). I am seeing in the brewing textbooks that deg L and SRM measurements are considered interchangeable.  This may be true for pale malts under 3 SRM, but as the malt color darkens the two measurements can diverge by over 30%.  For instance, using the equation SRM = (deg L – 0.76) x 1.3546, a 40 deg L measurement translates to 53 SRM. However, we still see malt color referenced in deg L on COA's and sales literature. So in the case of a caramel 40L malt what is its color in SRM? Is the Deg L unit irrelevant to malts over 3 SRM?

     

    Cheers,

     

    Karl

     

    Consulting Brewer

    Karl Ockert Brewing Services LLC

    www.ockertbrewserv.com

    Cell:  503-887-1938

     



  • 2.  RE: Malt color measurement

    Posted 12-22-2022 13:40
    I've had this same concern.

    As an R&D Brewer at Ballast Point Brewing a few years ago, we noticed some of our darker beers coming out too light in color than calculated when using certain American dark malts.  My team reached out to the maltster (who used Lovibond on their malt bags and data sheets to list the color) and asked if they use Lovibond or SRM.  The lab analyst said they use SRM when measuring color in the lab, and then list that SRM as Lovibond on the data sheet and malt bags.  The analyst said "there is no difference between SRM and Lovibond".  This was a dark malt mind you.

    The next time we brewed this beer, we switched to a European maltster and hit our calculated color right on.  In the future when using this American malters dark malts, we made sure to adjust our calculation for SRM and that resolved our challenge.  Very confusing though.

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    Chris Hotz
    Quality Manager
    Societe Brewing Co
    San Diego CA
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  • 3.  RE: Malt color measurement

    Posted 12-23-2022 16:06

    Further to this discussion, I found a blog entry from Betsy Roberts of Briess Malting, who does a good job explaining the evolution of malt color measurements and how her company addresses it. Anyone else from the malting world want to chime in?

     

    Cheers,

     

    Karl

     

    Consulting Brewer

    Karl Ockert Brewing Services LLC

    www.ockertbrewserv.com

    Cell:  503-887-1938

     






  • 4.  RE: Malt color measurement

    Posted 12-22-2022 14:36
    About 6 years ago, I was correlating pH buffering capacity with grain color for several "families" of grains - and the color side of things turned into a hot mess. After talking with a few maltsters and sending a number of European grain samples out for testing, some to an independent lab following ASBC protocols and some to a US maltster, this is what I think I learned:

    -US maltsters simply measure SRM and report it as Lovibond.
    -EBC has several methods for quantifying color based on the color range of a given grain. I wasn't able to find much detail, but I believe the spectrophotometric method is used for lighter grains and at least one comparison method is (was?) used for darker grains - and there's overlap on where they can be used.
    -It was hard to find technical people at European maltsters to talk with, but I got a couple nuggets of info. It seems that when they report in degrees Lovibond, they try to get closer to true Lovibond than US maltsters by using equations like Lovibond = 0.375 x EBC + 0.56. Different maltsters used different variations of that equation, but they were all similar.
    -All grains that tested under 90 SRM, a ~170 SRM UK crystal malt, and a German dehusked black malt were reasonably close to the equation Tested SRM = COA EBC / 1.97.
    -All UK grains that tested above 500 SRM and a Belgian Special B were reasonably close to the equation Tested SRM = 0.375 x COA EBC + 0.56.

    I only had 1-3 samples of each grain type tested (13 grain types total), so take my data with a grain of salt, but I think it's useful for highlighting the ambiguity of grain color reporting. If you unearth more info away from this thread, would you be willing to circle back and post a quick summary?

    Thanks!

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    Joe Walts
    Quality Manager and R&D Brewer
    Karben4 Brewing
    Madison WI
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  • 5.  RE: Malt color measurement

    Posted 12-22-2022 14:37
    Hey Karl,
    In my experience, North American maltsters report in SRM but often refer to their malts using Lovibond nomenclature.
    For example, 20 SRM Caramel Malt is sold as "20 L Caramel" even though it's not technically accurate.
    Certainly, "20 L" rolls of the tongue easier than "20 SRM".
    I guess it's ultimately a quirk of history or at most a marketing/branding decision.
    Cheers,
    Dan Carey
    New Glarus Brewing Company

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    Daniel Carey
    Brewmaster
    New Glarus Brewing Company
    New Glarus WI
    (608) 527-5850
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