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  • 1.  Dosing liquid into a closed FV

    Posted 03-05-2024 06:03

    Hello everyone,

    I was wondering everyone's preferred method for dosing liquid (tetra, liquid dry hop products, finings, flavorings) into cold partially or fully carbonated beer.  We don't have dedicated dry hop ports on the top of our tanks.  We do have a top manway.  To this point, I just depressurize, open the manway, dump in the liquid, re-seal, re-pressurize the tank and burst in some CO2 from the racking port to mix.  We haven't noticed meaningful impacts on our DO levels, but it feels archaic.

    For large volumes of stuff, we have a braukon hop gun, but an hour of prep do dose in a few liters of whatever seems like overkill.

    I've read that people will put the liquid into a cleaned purged keg and push it into a tank, but this freaks me out too.  I don't know how to adequately clean a keg coupler or crappy plastic beer lines to where I'd feel comfortable using them to push stuff into a tank (maybe I'm being paranoid).

    What are the preferred sanitary methods of doing this?

    Thanks,

    Anthony



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    Anthony Baraff
    Brewer/Owner
    Brasserie Du Grand Paris
    Saint Denis
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  • 2.  RE: Dosing liquid into a closed FV

    Posted 03-05-2024 13:19

    Anthony, do you have a racking am on your tanks. One way would be to set up a recirc loop from the racking arm to the tank bottom (or vice versa) and inject whatever you need to add into the loop ahead of the pump. I worked with ABE Equipment a while back to create an injection port for this, which has a small hose barb on the outside of a 1 1/2" TC elbow, passing through and bending into the flow in the center of the stream. You can attach a syringe or some small sanitary fitting to the hose barb, depending on the amount of material you need to push, and inject it slowly during recirculation. I did this expressly for injecting Tetra and other downstream hop products, but it should have application for any number of scenarios. For Tetra, you can also just inject it during transfer to filtration or bright tank, just make sure the injection point is at least 5m upstream of any filter, centrifuge, or an injection point for finings in order to give it time to go fully into solution before it gets to those points and potentially gets filtered out. Pictures are attached. I believe ABE is stocking these in their parts store



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    Steve Bradt
    President - District Great Plains
    Hopsteiner
    Craft Sales Representative
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  • 3.  RE: Dosing liquid into a closed FV

    Posted 03-10-2024 15:04

    This looks like a great option too.  Do you have a syringe that's adapted for this?  Where could I find one?



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    Anthony Baraff
    Brewer/Owner
    Brasserie Du Grand Paris
    Saint Denis
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  • 4.  RE: Dosing liquid into a closed FV

    Posted 03-10-2024 18:55

    I think you can find several options through amazon, maybe US Plastics, or a lab supply house. Luer lock might be nice, just to help secure whatever tubing you use to the syringe.

     

    Kind Regards,

    Steve Bradt | Craft Sales Representative

    Lawrence, KS 66044  – USA

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  • 5.  RE: Dosing liquid into a closed FV

    Posted 03-05-2024 14:42

    We have a 4" TC spool pipe that is about 9" long for this purpose.

    It will hold a couple of liters for dosing we reduce down to 1.5" to hook up to our racking arm and the other end reduces down to 1.5" that we hook up to a quick connect and push in with CO2.  Back flush and push back in again.



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    Ivan Dedek
    Brewmaster/Food Scientist
    Meier's Creek Brewing
    Cazenovia NY
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  • 6.  RE: Dosing liquid into a closed FV

    Posted 03-12-2024 19:04

    We do a fair amount of dosing into brite tanks using 1/2bbl yeast brinks.  We'll sanitize with hot liquor, purge the entire hot liquor volume out with CO2, pressurize and then allow to cool to ambient.  The brink has valves up top which we attach a reducer to for pouring in liquids.  We can then push the brink into the tank with CO2 and pull liquid in-and-out to ensure we've fully emptied the contents. The benefit of the yeast brink is that it's all sanitary connections, easy to CIP, and easy to open up for inspection.  Any tubing is food-grade silicone or beer hose.

    For viscous liquods, we often do this while actively recirculating the tank, just to ensure everything is homogenized.



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    Jeremy Castellano
    Director of Brewing Operations
    Mission Brewing
    San Diego, CA
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