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Hello everyone:

We have been running a single head Codi machine for the last 6 million cans, we replace the chuck and rollers annually, de-shim the rollers every 300k cans. and have rebuild the main bearing 3 times. 

However, something in my seam reports has always troubled me. 

we run a standard 12-ounce can with a 202-CDL Lid and need to run the seamer so tight that Op-2 nearly collides with the chuck in order to get anything close to the ball seam specs of .041 to .045. 

the reason for this is the angle of the lid itself in relation to the can wall. in the picture below you will see that this translates as a large cone shaped gap leading into the seam. is this gap normal with this lid type? are balls specs just overkill on purpose? or is this simply an issue of not having a hearty enough machine to do the process justice?

please note the picture below 

thanks for any input you may have. 

Hello everyone:

We have been running a single head Codi machine for the last 6 million cans, we replace the chuck and rollers annually, de-shim the rollers every 300k cans. and have rebuild the main bearing 3 times. 

However, something in my seam reports has always troubled me. 

we run a standard 12-ounce can with a 202-CDL Lid and need to run the seamer so tight that Op-2 nearly collides with the chuck in order to get anything close to the ball seam specs of .041 to .045. 

the reason for this is the angle of the lid itself in relation to the can wall. in the picture below you will see that this translates as a large cone shaped gap leading into the seam. is this gap normal with this lid type? are balls specs just overkill on purpose? or is this simply an issue of not having a hearty enough machine to do the process justice?

please note the picture below 

thanks for any input you may have. 

Hello everyone:

We have been running a single head Codi machine for the last 6 million cans, we replace the chuck and rollers annually, de-shim the rollers every 300k cans. and have rebuild the main bearing 3 times. 

However, something in my seam reports has always troubled me. 

we run a standard 12-ounce can with a 202-CDL Lid and need to run the seamer so tight that Op-2 nearly collides with the chuck in order to get anything close to the ball seam specs of .041 to .045. 

the reason for this is the angle of the lid itself in relation to the can wall. in the picture below you will see that this translates as a large cone shaped gap leading into the seam. is this gap normal with this lid type? are balls specs just overkill on purpose? or is this simply an issue of not having a hearty enough machine to do the process justice?

please note the picture below 

thanks for any input you may have. 

Hello everyone:

We have been running a single head Codi machine for the last 6 million cans, we replace the chuck and rollers annually, de-shim the rollers every 300k cans. and have rebuild the main bearing 3 times. 

However, something in my seam reports has always troubled me. 

we run a standard 12-ounce can with a 202-CDL Lid and need to run the seamer so tight that Op-2 nearly collides with the chuck in order to get anything close to the ball seam specs of .041 to .045. 

the reason for this is the angle of the lid itself in relation to the can wall. in the picture below you will see that this translates as a large cone shaped gap leading into the seam. is this gap normal with this lid type? are balls specs just overkill on purpose? or is this simply an issue of not having a hearty enough machine to do the process justice?

please note the picture below 

thanks for any input you may have. 

Hello everyone:

We have been running a single head Codi machine for the last 6 million cans, we replace the chuck and rollers annually, de-shim the rollers every 300k cans. and have rebuild the main bearing 3 times. 

However, something in my seam reports has always troubled me. 

we run a standard 12-ounce can with a 202-CDL Lid and need to run the seamer so tight that Op-2 nearly collides with the chuck in order to get anything close to the ball seam specs of .041 to .045. 

the reason for this is the angle of the lid itself in relation to the can wall. in the picture below you will see that this translates as a large cone shaped gap leading into the seam. is this gap normal with this lid type? are balls specs just overkill on purpose? or is this simply an issue of not having a hearty enough machine to do the process justice?

please note the picture below 

thanks for any input you may have. 

Hello everyone:

We have been running a single head Codi machine for the last 6 million cans, we replace the chuck and rollers annually, de-shim the rollers every 300k cans. and have rebuild the main bearing 3 times. 

However, something in my seam reports has always troubled me. 

we run a standard 12-ounce can with a 202-CDL Lid and need to run the seamer so tight that Op-2 nearly collides with the chuck in order to get anything close to the ball seam specs of .041 to .045. 

the reason for this is the angle of the lid itself in relation to the can wall. in the picture below you will see that this translates as a large cone shaped gap leading into the seam. is this gap normal with this lid type? are balls specs just overkill on purpose? or is this simply an issue of not having a hearty enough machine to do the process justice?

please note the picture below 

thanks for any input you may have. 

Here's the most recent Ball CDL spec sheet we use. Verify the end thickness and coating from your supplier.

Hello everyone:

We have been running a single head Codi machine for the last 6 million cans, we replace the chuck and rollers annually, de-shim the rollers every 300k cans. and have rebuild the main bearing 3 times. 

However, something in my seam reports has always troubled me. 

we run a standard 12-ounce can with a 202-CDL Lid and need to run the seamer so tight that Op-2 nearly collides with the chuck in order to get anything close to the ball seam specs of .041 to .045. 

the reason for this is the angle of the lid itself in relation to the can wall. in the picture below you will see that this translates as a large cone shaped gap leading into the seam. is this gap normal with this lid type? are balls specs just overkill on purpose? or is this simply an issue of not having a hearty enough machine to do the process justice?

please note the picture below 

thanks for any input you may have. 

Awesome: 

thank you so much Brent for the new seam spec sheet. 

it reveals much more of the puzzle than what I was looking at based on a 20 year old spec sheet I got from my supplier. 

one more question for you guys before I'm back to cutting and scanning. 

on the new spec sheet for seam thickness, it mentions (.0082"g - .0085"g) is this the liner thickness in the can, the lid, or something else?

Here's the most recent Ball CDL spec sheet we use. Verify the end thickness and coating from your supplier.

Hello everyone:

We have been running a single head Codi machine for the last 6 million cans, we replace the chuck and rollers annually, de-shim the rollers every 300k cans. and have rebuild the main bearing 3 times. 

However, something in my seam reports has always troubled me. 

we run a standard 12-ounce can with a 202-CDL Lid and need to run the seamer so tight that Op-2 nearly collides with the chuck in order to get anything close to the ball seam specs of .041 to .045. 

the reason for this is the angle of the lid itself in relation to the can wall. in the picture below you will see that this translates as a large cone shaped gap leading into the seam. is this gap normal with this lid type? are balls specs just overkill on purpose? or is this simply an issue of not having a hearty enough machine to do the process justice?

please note the picture below 

thanks for any input you may have.